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Hello,my name is Alex,my username [Sedition].I am an athiest and have been so ever since i was 12.I take debating religion as a hobby,and often run into similair questions about faith and about my lack of faith from believers,this page is simply a question and awnser/debate forum for curious thiest and athiest alike to ask questions about the logic of religion,the bible,god,or about anything else.I try to supply a source for all my citations of claims and quotes,and i ask the same of you should you be compelled to bring some 'proof' for your claims.to get this out of the way right now(and save hours of debating),here is a small list of things that i do not consider evidence:

-Religuos text quotes that lack tangible support in reality (i get this one more then any other,please,if you quote the bible,keep in mind that i dont believe in it,and that if you cant support that claim with evidence,then well,your a moron.I cant stress enough how annoying it is to debate with someone that makes the assumption that you dont take what the bible says with a grain of salt when citing it as a credible source.)
-Ad homminem(sp?:this is a big one,personal attacks one myself or any group of people (even thiest) is not allowed,and its bigoted and unsupported.I hold christianity accountable for things like the crusades,but i do not hold a modern day follower of the religion accountable on account of they werent involved,and couldent of been anyway.criticise a philosophy,but not people,this is a very big one as it can drag a debate into name calling and mud slinging.
-Vague pseudo-intellectual babbel:this one is a little more funny then the others,but still annoying.please,please,PLEASE know im an athiest and dont believe you.take this in mind and dont start preaching to me about faith and what not,and lord xenu beaming you up into heaven or some crazy mess,really now,this one should be self explanitory but ive had to hear people say some really crazy shit to try and cover their ass.to define this more appropriatly is basiclly saying dont make illogical statements that kind of counted on the opponent actually believing you beforehand,and not have anything to support your claims.this is a really big one,nutcases are funny to look at,but i want a semi-seriuos environment here,take anything totally irrelevent to the arguement elsewhere.
-'Scientist that say this and that':now this one is a little hard to define,i DO take scientist and scholars and other specialist as evidence to a degree,what i do not accept are vague theoretics such as "scientist say the universe is so advanced that their must be a designer".That is so vague and unsupported that whoever considers that evidence needs a lead pipe to the head.PLEASE keep this a little down to earth,what i mean is only cite professionals who have seriuosly backed up their research,and have followed scientific method (hence the term scientist).
-Pascal's wager:it's safer to believe then not believe becuase of the threat of hell.

well,thats my small list of rules,i enjoy this,and want this to grow a bit of a bridge of understanding between thiest and athiest,im not here to recruit (athiest typically dont care if you believe or not,were as a decent number of thiest feel compelled to recruit for the sake of "saving" people,which in itself is something they do out of the 'goodness' of their heart becuase they kinda care about you,but it's still annoying.) i'm here to debate,weither you end up an athiest or stay a thiest is irrelevant,i do this for fun,and to get people thinking,i think there is no greater reward then to enhance the knowledge of both myself and others.

Please enter your basic questions here.if you wish to debate,request it in the comments section and i shall make a page for us,this wiki is still a bit premature,so bare with me.

Q:What made you think of this?
A:Boredom.plus i was getting lazy and got tired of dragging my self to the christian wikis,now they have to come to me instead,muahahaha!

Q:What it is, skank?
A:Ya know,i have made many request for people to withhold silly questions.

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2006-06-21 [drakkar]: this should be an intresting experiment

2006-06-21 [Sedition]: indeed

2006-06-21 [drakkar]: CP: counterpoint

2006-06-21 [Sedition]: i know my abbreviations drakkar

2006-06-21 [Sedition]: R:Retort

2006-06-21 [drakkar]: for everyone else comrade

2006-06-21 [Sedition]: please avoid spamming my question board,if you have a real question ask it.

2006-06-21 [drakkar]: XD always have to have the last word eh

2006-06-21 [Sedition]: no,this is not a comedic board (atleast not intentionally) and is meant as a means of adressing actual questions

2006-06-21 [drakkar]: well then i shall let your experiment commence then

2006-06-21 [Sedition]: im surprised you dont have any questions

2006-06-21 [drakkar]: i am content with my beiliefs and yours i try not to pry in on that badland of a place that often ruins good friendships

2006-06-21 [Sedition]: bleh,you know im not sensitive,and im impersonal during debates anyway.but if thats your wish

2006-06-21 [drakkar]: myup

2006-06-21 [drakkar]: >.>....the proper term is nabzi

2006-06-22 [How To Break A Piano]: I'd ask you a question, but I'm also an Athiest... <_<' What made you think of this?

2006-06-22 [Sedition]: there,good enough?

2006-06-25 [drakkar]: .>...what was the point of that hitler link?

2006-06-26 [Sedition]: huh?

2006-06-26 [drakkar]: in your mood

2006-06-26 [Sedition]: oh,that had no point XD

2006-06-26 [drakkar]: -,-....*bashs you for pointless fuhrer images*

2006-06-26 [Sedition]: _>

2006-06-26 [drakkar]: >.>....*marchs a bit before sitting* .............now then....what was i doing?

2006-07-29 [Dil*]: It's spelled 'atheist'. Damnit, and you're supposed to represent us?

2006-07-29 [Sedition]: I dont represent anyone but myself,thus,why im an "athiest".really now,its tomato or tomata with that stupid spelling arguement,millions of athiest and atheist bicker about that all the time.i know,dont bring it to my attention,i do it on purpose.

2006-07-30 [How To Break A Piano]: I've only really ever seen it spelled "Atheist"... Haha, despite the mispelling up there. But who cares, really...

2006-07-30 [Dil*]: It's atheist. Honestly. This page is an question answer page linking off of that awful 'the proof' page in which they claim to have 'proof' of gods existence, yet will not allow people to question their beliefs. What kind of proof is that? If it can't withstand scrutiny, it isn't proof. I'm insulted. And since this is a question answer page for a generic atheist, you'd think that the person would have knowledge enough to at least spell the word atheist correctly. I'm sorry about coming off a bit rude, I'm just *really* annoyed about that proof page. Can I link my page to your page?

2006-07-30 [Dil*]: strong atheism

2006-07-30 [Sedition]: yes,you can link here,and as i said before,that typo was done on purpose.the point of mispelling atheism was me pulling what i like to call a "mortal kombat".as you said,alot of people mispell atheist,especially religuos folk that typically dont even use the word theist,but use stuff like god-fearing instead.it was an indirect joke on them.

2006-07-30 [Sedition]: and ive spent alot of time at the proof being the only athiest there,and pretty much the only opposing force of debate for whats been many months now.personal business has interuppted me for the moment and i havent had the time to keep contributing to the wiki(which i will contribute to soon i promise.).The people there are ordinary people like you and me,and although my short temper gets the best of me and i have had one or two outburst there (seriuos debate is terrible on the nerves),i have to say those people there are good people,i believe religion is inherintly evil,but i also believe it's followers are inherintly good people that can be coerced into doing things their own <c>

2006-07-30 [Sedition]: conciuos(sp?) would other wise be against if it were not for religion.

2006-07-31 [Dil*]: You think you have a short fuse..oh dear ;) I bet I have a shorter one..you can see that from viewing my page.

2006-07-31 [drakkar]: >.>.....never seen a short fuse battle before

2006-07-31 [Sedition]: yeah,i can tell you have the shorter of tempers between us ;) my patience level has slowly increased with experience,ive been a debater for a long time and it takes a bit to get me going now a days (usually it has to be an outright ad hominem attack on me to get me riled up).

2006-07-31 [Dil*]: hehe, I've been debating for years too...but the fuse has grown shorter..lately.

2006-07-31 [Sedition]: current times can do that

2006-07-31 [drakkar]: it ultimately depends on the person and there personal peeves

2006-07-31 [Dil*]: ..stupidity?

2006-07-31 [drakkar]: could be a factor

2006-09-12 [Avoral]: "Ad hominem."
You were close.

2006-09-12 [Sedition]: ...neh?

2006-09-14 [drakkar]: "Ad hominem" saying thats someones argument was wrong

2006-09-14 [Dil*]: no, ad hominem is a personal attack which has nothing to do with the quality or the non-quality of the opponent's arguement.

2006-09-14 [Sedition]: ditto what dil said,which is why im a bit confused at what Avoral is getting at.

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